Wednesday, July 19, 2006

Bush Vetos Expanding Stem Cell Research


Too stupid to really be President can't wrap his brain around the concept of saving actual lives, not just hypothetical ones.

23 comments:

  1. At one time your little darling was a hypothetical one, would you have given her up to save another life. My guess is not.

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  2. For the record I am the mother of four children and strongly advocate the use of embryonic stem cells for medical research. We are not talking about the use of fetuses for medical research, we are talking about cells. And the cells in question are embryos that will never come to fruition as human life, but by products of reproductive medical services, that would be destroyed and discarded otherwise. Does it not make sense to use these cells to save lives and further medical research? Which is more conserving of human life? I believe it is the obstructionists that are playing God with human life.

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  3. "This bill would support the taking of innocent human life in the hope of finding medical benefits for others," Bush said after rejecting calls that he change his policy. "It crosses a moral boundary that our decent society needs to respect."

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  4. Bush show tremendous audacity to talk about crossing moral boundaries that decent societies need to respect, it is not moral to wage war on a country that did not attack us, it is not moral to impose fundamentalist religious beliefs on a multicultural, multifaith society. It is not moral to pit good citizens against each other. It is not moral to turn your back on scientific and medical advancements that could save millions for countless generations for the sake of discarded cell tissue.

    Oh do you know why hillbillies don't believe in evolution? Because it hasn't reached them yet.

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  5. Liberals never seem to disappointment me when they are backed into a corner, once that happens they go into the defensive mode of name calling to try and defuse the debate.

    What in the hell is a hillbilly? the Icon of the Democratic party was a Hillbilly non other than Bill Clinton, in fact just about 50% of this great countries Presidents have been Hillbillies as you put it, what does that have to say for the rest of you?

    Give me one country that has prospered by this thingy you call multi-culrureism, is it France? is it the UK?, give me one good example.

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  6. You probably have me pegged as a sushi-eating, tree-hugging, latte-sipping urban yuppie liberal and you are right (though at present I live in the mountains). Bill Clinton is AN icon of the Democratic Party, not THE...we have quite a few. What is a hillbilly? Well for me it is someone who embraces the reactionary garbage spewed by the likes of Michael Savage, who think Bush is a genius, and who refuse to consider that any other point of view, religious, political or otherwise, has any validity. See the post "Signs you are a Fundamentalist Christian" below...

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  7. Let me tell you what a Hillbilly is to you, it is someone with southern roots and someone who you think is stupid, has nothing to do with Michael Savage, Goerge Bush, or anyone else, it has to do with your up-bringing and the stupidy of the parents that raised you, so do not piss down my back and tell me it is raining.

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  8. Not much pisses me off more than some dumbass telling me he knows what I think or believe, except maybe calling my parents stupid. Only I get to do that. Having been raised in the south I am fairly knowledgable about rednecks, hillbillies and other circus freaks that are the product of evolutionary hits and misses often acheived by shallow gene pools and family trees that are all root, no branches. So if you want to make arbitrary suppositions about me, then I could sit here and guess how many generations you are from the trees. I need one hint though, if it isn't too much to ask. When you hit your space bar do you use an opposable thumb or one of your other three digits?

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  9. CareBear quit having a war of wits with the unarmed.

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  10. One thing I have a problem with is that these guys scream that stem cells would be researched, but have no proble with throwing away unused materials. I must say WTF?

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  11. Oh man this is quite a heated incident!

    I'll stay out of the hippie vs. yuppie wrestling match and comment on the stem-cell thing.

    Ole Rocky Top: This bill passed 63-37 in the Senate and 236-194 in the House. Do you really, really in your heart of hearts, think that 299 of our Congressmen and women, including VERY pro-life Senators like Hatch and your boy Frist, support murder?


    And my other question for you is this: There are far too many embryos for people to adopt, so we already know that the VAST majority of them will not be babies.

    SO . . . Would you rather a) keep them in the freezer for all eternity, b) throw them away as medical waste, or c) allow scientists to use these stem cells THAT I REPEAT WILL NEVER BECOME BABIES to study diseases that affect people who have actually been born?

    Because those really are the options Bush is limiting us too here.

    Nice blog LTS!

    Oh and Rockytop I'll give you one example of a country that has benefited from multiculturalism--the U.S. For starters, I like Mexican and Chinese food tremendously. What is your objection to multiculturalism if I may ask?

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  12. Cara-

    I owe you an apology. That piece of shit that's trolling you got here from your post on my blog.

    It's been trying to troll me since bu$hmeriKa Part 1 and bothers just about everyone who makes an appearance on my blog.

    Its a sixty plus lonely old "man" that puts up vanity pictures of itself in cowboy outfits and tries to put on its coolest and toughest look for the camera. Hilarious really.

    Its not allowed to post on my blog any more and your best bet is to delete/ignore it. I did the back & forth with it for a while and quickly learned the error of my ways. It's very illiterate anyway & is verbally a lot like its master, the emperor wannabe and the most excellent Lord duh-bya.

    I moved your blog up into my reciprocationg section, btw. We were on a mini-vacation when you posted. Thanks for the link & the kind words! Keep up the good work here! :)

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  13. Chuck, Thank you so much, and no worries. It is very interesting to learn about olerockytop's proclivities. In my mind he looked and sounded like the little old queen from Will and Grace, Karen's nemnesis, about 4 and a half feet tall, deep southern accent and deeper denial. Your little information did nothing to put off that image, and I think I would probably pay good money to see these vanity shots (are the cowboy suits sequined?)

    You made my day hon, thanks again!

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  14. I love Left Wingers they are so sensitive, everything they say they think they are telling the truth, take ole' Chuckie he posted so many varations of one post that he actually believes the shit that he puts out......give the guy the facts and he will not post it....right chuckie.

    Left wingers never like the facts, once given to them they will try and defuse the debate by name calling or try to insult the person who has proven them wrong....it has to be tough dealing with a mental disorder called Liberalism.

    One of their best stories is that Bill clinton was Impeached for getting his helmet polished by Monica, now we know what the truth is, the man was impeached for purgery.

    I had a little debate with a left winger at work, the man started throwing out one lie after another, I said to him, look If you do not like Bush's policies, say that, I can respect your opinion, say you do not like the man, again I can respect what you are saying, but when you start putting out bull-shit give me the facts, like where did you get your info, when asked to do that the dipshit mumble under his breath.... I am sure he called me a name because he was put on the spot and could not produce......typical Liberal...left winger.....Just to give you an example of what this person said...he said Richard Nixon should apologize for Viet Nam....I go what......I said the war was on when Nixon took over and the person that should apologize was LBJ for his lying on the Gulf O Tonka...then the man said Kennedy apologized for the Cuban Missle Crises...I said you have to be out of your mind...no American President that has any salt would ever apologize for something they never started....See Liberalism especially Left Wing is a MENTAL DISORDER...OTHER WISE THEY ARE FRIGGEN CRAZY...

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  15. Rocky I left a new post for you, a direct message if you will...is it you???

    PS I would love to show you how to operate spell check...just a thought.

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  16. PERSONALLY BLOGGING DOES NOT REQUIRE SPELL CHECK...THE POINT IS DID YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID...MY GUESS IS YES YOU DID...SO DO NOT PULL THE OLD SPELL CHECK TRICK ON ME,,,,,,,,IT IS THE CONTENT OF THE MESSAGE NOT THE FRIGGEN SPELLING THAT COUNTS...SO AS I CONTINUE THROUGH THIS LIFE I WILL CONTINUE TO MIS-SPELL WORDS...DO I GIVE A RIP...NOT

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  18. mAYBE YOU CAN UNDERSTAN PIG LATIN

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  19. Let's go back in time and snatch some look at two uh de most famous dumb ass Liberals, Dan Rada' and Snow Flake Mapes some couple uh jerks...ya' know de kind dat digs some letter, dese two friggen idiots starts rappin' smack, based downon on de info dey received. Look where dese mo'ons is today. Slap mah fro!..yea where is dey???so'ta faded off into de sunset dun didn't dey. Slap mah fro! No one wants's nuthin t'do wid dese two jerks...ole' Dan needed t'be retired and he wuz on his stupidity. Slap mah fro!.. CAN YOU WRITE LIKE THIS MY GUESS IS NOT...

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  20. Nope, you got me there, Hemingway. I can't write like dat. I think maybe if I took a page from the Rocky School of Literature and Political Science I could sit up all night drinking and cleaning my guns, weeping about my repressed sexuality and shameful behavior I might get close. Here is my suggestion, it might make your life a lot happier. You seem to have a lot of bottled rage, and I suspect you have issues with your mother, clearly you hate women. You may or may not even know who your father is but perhaps you should ask your uncle. Deal with the business close to you, and get the emotional baggage unloaded. Perhaps YOUR blog would be an appropriate forum for your rage and crazy talk. Whatever. But don't try to sell crazy here, we are all stocked up.

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  21. Oh hey Rocky, btw, where the fuck is the Gulf of Tonka? I googled it and found nada. Is that where they make those yellow mini dump trucks? I need to get one for my son.

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  22. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a pair of alleged attacks by North Vietnamese gunboats on two American destroyers, the USS Maddox and the USS C. Turner Joy, in August of 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin. Later research, including a report released in 2005 by the National Security Agency, indicates that the second attack did not occur while also trying to dispell the long-standing rumor that U.S. President Lyndon Johnson had knowingly lied about the existence of the incident.

    The implication of the incident was the passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution which granted the President authority to assist any Southeast Asian country whose governments were jeopardized. This was used as legal backing by Johnson for introducing American troops in the Vietnam War.

    Contents [hide]
    1 Background
    2 The Incident
    3 Differing views of the Incident
    4 Later statements
    5 Gulf of Tonkin Resolution
    6 Interpretation
    7 Trivia
    8 See also
    9 References
    10 External links



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    Background
    The Vietnam War had begun in the late 1950s with the Hanoi-backed National Front for the Liberation of Vietnam carrying out attacks against the Saigon government of South Vietnam. The U.S. provided support to the South in the form of aid and a number of military advisors that grew from 600 at the start to 16,000 at the end of Kennedy's presidency in 1963.

    The Tonkin incident occurred during the first year of the Lyndon B. Johnson administration — less than a year after the Kennedy assassination. While Kennedy had originally supported the policy of sending "military advisors" to Vietnam in an "advisory role", he had begun to change his thinking and shortly before his death in November 1963, he had begun limited recall of American forces. Johnson's views had been likewise complex, but had supported escalation in Vietnam as a means to challenge Soviet-Communist expansion in a policy called "containment". After Kennedy's death, Johnson would order more forces to support the west-allied South Vietnam government, beginning the United States' protracted presence in Southeast Asia.

    According to the U.S. Naval Institute,[1], a highly classified program of covert attacks against North Vietnam had begun under the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1961 and in 1964 the program was transferred to the Defense Department under the control of a cover organization called the Studies and Observations Group (SOG). For the maritime part of the covert operation, Nasty-class fast patrol boats were purchased quietly from Norway. Although the personnel in the boats were South Vietnamese, approval of the plan came directly from General William C. Westmoreland in Saigon. After the attacks began, Hanoi lodged a complaint with the International Control Commission (ICC), which had been established in 1954 to oversee the terms of the Geneva Accords, but the United States denied involvement. Four years later, McNamara admitted to Congress that the US ships had in fact been cooperating in South Vietnamese attacks against the North. The Maddox, however, was not directly involved in these attacks.

    Now you have the info to go and buy your kid one of them trucks....don't be coy with me you knew exactly what I was talking about...but excuse me you Liberals have to have someone else to do your thinking for you...right.......

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  23. "where the fuck is the Gulf of Tonka?" God Damn it took me a few minutes to catch on....you want me to talk dirty to you is that right?????but you have been married 10 years to a wonderful man...right....if this guy is so wonderful why isn't your ass in bed all snugged up against him...you know like rubbing your ass right in is face so you can get some action...but no you would rather be here debating with me because you find me more interesting than the old man...right....


    I am a good looking guy...sorta smooth in the way i talk...the way I look...all the women love me...after taking a second look at you...not my type...maybe you should go after old Chuckie boy...

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